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Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 205

i agree with this person 100%. he wrote a nice post on the mage forums figured id pass it along because its how i feel about mages

I'm pretty disgusted with how mages stand in pvp right now. The only usable build at all is deep frost/arcane, and that's just because if we don't have ice block, we'll get 2 shotted by any class in wow. For some reason, Blizzard sees it fit to give 41 demonology warlocks the ability to do equivalent or more dps to us when we go full offensive spec, and a fully offensive specced warlock... well, I'd be rerolling if the game went live right now.

Getting MS crit for 2.5k, ambush crit for 2.7k, multi shot crit for 2.5k, arcane shot for 1.4k, 350 damage corruption ticks from 41 demonology warlocks.. the list goes on and on. Mage abilities aren't scaling at all, while seemingly every other class scales incredibly. As frost spec, my frost bolts at level 67 do something like 60 more damage than they did at level 60, except I now have empowered frost bolt, which accounts for all of that damage. Why are none of our abilities scaling at all? Dampen magic, mana shield, fire ward, frost ward? Why is blink's mana cost scaling out of control? Why is counterspell on a global cooldown now, even though we already had the most trouble with caster classes? Why are other classes doing more burst DPS than us, even though we are far and away the most gimped class defensively? Why have I gained 7 levels and gotten *NO* increase in my dps?

Some serious fixing is needed for this class. Other classes are scaling offensively as their spell coefficients are being increased or they obtain new weapons/new talents, but our defensive abilities are still static. Adding 50 stamina and 30 resilience at level 70 is not going to fix the problems that exist with our class right now. If Blizzard wants to force us into a role of doing more sustained dps instead of burst, they are going to have to scale our defenses. Make Arcane Fortitude scale off of something besides int, so we gain more than 3 armor every 5 levels. Make frost warding scale off of something BESIDES ice armor, which doesn't even seem to scale with frost damage! Make our wards scale off of intellect, or armor, or damage, or something. Just please, fix this class.

The only real benefit we have seen so far is ice lance, which does a near static ~1600-1800 crit, because of how poorly it scales with damage gear. At level 70 with hugely increased gear it is still not going to gain much damage, but other classes will have significantly more hit points with increased resilience. Ice lance is a nice patch, but forcing us to rely on one spec and one spell in pvp is not good, and not fun.

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 90 Location: Kentucky

Now u know how it feels to be 2shoted with a pryoblast and a inastant pryoblast right after.

Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 205

Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 951

quit your complaining you guys have the most crowd control ever and after all CC = win in pvp.

Joined: 11 Sep 2006 Posts: 100

actually warlocks have more cc with fear/succubus.

Ark

Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 205

Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 951

in teh BC mages have nova and sheep and they have a pet that novas as well. not to mention fire spells have stun chance with talents and mages can get out of tight areas with blink.

Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 205

Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 205

Rank 11:
http://www.dissonanceftw.com/malevalon/images/beta/frostbolt11.jpeg

Rank 12:
http://www.dissonanceftw.com/malevalon/images/beta/frostbolt12.jpeg

this is how mage damage scales in the expansion. while melee classes are getting 90+dps weapons.

(note you get +1 BASE damage)

impact was also recently put on diminishing returns so molten armor is abit less useful. along with no more rolling ignites. presence of mind and combustion share the same cooldown. counterspell on the GCD. dragons breath/ cone of cold sharing a cool down

Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 133

L63 now

Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 34

I'm in one guild with Valjean now Very Happy

Also some guys from ex-archimond.

Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 205

/CRY

warlock 4tw
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2271851758537033558

*note he uses that book from bwl*

Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 951

LMFAO

Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 133

L64 now.